Robin Williams, pfft.

in case any of you haven't received this spam, i am attaching it to better frame my reply (listed further below):
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"To bad we don't know Pres. Bushes email address to send him these ideas.....

You gotta love Robin Williams...... even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message. Robin Williams' plan (Hard to argue with this logic!): "I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.

1..) The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin,Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good ole boys,'We will never "interfere" again.
2..) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.
3..) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are...They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.
4..) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.
5..) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, or they get a "D" and it's back home baby.
6..) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.
7..) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
8..) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.
9..) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
10.) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE.

Now, isn't that a winner of a plan? The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying, 'Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'"
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i took the liberty of removing all the FWD symbols from the above so that the content would be the only source of annoyance. also, i would point out that this has been proven to not have originated from Williams. my reply:

it is hard to know where to start with the email you forwarded.

first off, we had the CIA corrupt several of the governments listed in 1 and we placed those corrupt leaders in power. now they have ideas of our own and we don't like it. if we hadn't interfered in a number of those places (Cuba, Iraq, Iran, and Bolivia, just to name a few), they wouldn't be the disasters they now are.

it is amazing to me that people, especially women, think we have done something good in Iraq when they have more rape and murder of women than before we got there- from their own countrymen as well as our people. the Constitution now makes women subject to Sharia law which says that a girl can be married off by her father at age 9, that rape only counts if witnessed by 4 Muslim men, and that infidelity (by a woman) is punishable by stoning to death. non-partisan women's advocates estimate US interference to have caused the loss of 50 years of forward progress in protection of women's rights in Iraq.

in addition, the 'corruption' that existed before we got there cannot compete against the 5 billion dollars that has been embezzled from US funds at least partially by US companies and contractors since the war has started. prisoners at G-Bay can be tried by military tribunal without representation and be subjected to the death penalty without any independent evaluation of evidence. inmates in multiple military prisons in Iraq have been subject to repeated humiliation, sodomy and tortured to death--many of whom on review committed NO CRIME. evidence suggests this was at least known about and probably condoned by high level officials. regardless of whether a crime was committed, raping men with broomsticks is not appropriate for any POW.*

also, there is a large amount of data supporting the fact that Bush's current stance of 'tougher' borders has led to increased retirement of aliens in the US as they cannot get out and has also resulted in increased trafficking of humans in the country. in addition, in this 'great democracy' of ours, Bush can now surveil my library card without probable cause or a warrant if his people decide my dissidence is a threat to his PR campaign. it is great to return to McCarthyism.

sounds to me like Bush doesn't need any help creating a fascist state with 'Lady Liberty' giving the world the finger. he is doing an excellent job on his own. i am happy to provide detailed references in non-liberal sources for ALL of these points if you would like.
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[*for more on this, see previous post.]

the source of this debate really disappointed me. i would have thought she would know better. ah well.

on the upside, i just got back from a Move On organizational meeting to help plan the upset one of the most corrupt congresspersons in the capital in the mid-term elections.